popoeliz:I think the key point is if you are ethnically Chinese, you are Chinese. No but, no if or may be...
Similarly a statement like "anyone that is not from communist china is not a Chinese" is just as absurd.
By the same token, are you suggesting that Jane Goldstein of Neutral Bay, 35, fourth-generation Jewish-Australian, athiest, chartered accountant and mother of 2, should feel the same way about Israel's occupation of Palestine, as Moshe Herschlag of Tel Aviv, Israeli Orthodox Jew, 35, engineer and father of 3? Nevermind the circumstances they grew up in, culture they were exposed to, creed, gender, occupation, all because a fundamentalist Islamic terrorist would see them as the same and kill them both, as they are both Jews by the broadest of terms? You tell me what's more absurd.
Or, if a black man from Tennessee is able to trace his ancestry back to modern-day Congo, would he suddenly refer to himself as Congolese-American? Can he be accused of "denying" his heritage all of a sudden? And yet, assimilated into the wider society as they are, do African-Americans not have their own culture evolved from their ancestors, that is very distinct from other ethnicities?
The fact of the matter is, culture is not static as the baggage you have made it out to be, it is constantly changed by the environment a group finds itself in. I've acknowledged time and time again that my heritage IS Chinese, I have never given that up, but you conveniently chose to ignore that, and continued to put me in the same pigeonhole as those that grew up in a drastically different society with vastly different values, with no clear or logical explanation other than saying what amounts to "you just ARE, so shut up" ad nauseum.
BTW 華裔 simply means "of Chinese descendance" regardless of where one is born.A politician may say not keeping political promise is political astuteness, to me it is a lie.
e.g. The Australian Labour prime minister promised that there is no carbon tax before the election but she set up carbon tax after the election to secure a minority government with Green party.
To her it is political astuteness, to me she is a bloody liar, no if no but no may be.
As for me, I don't remember making any pledge, to anybody, at any time of my life, to accept all people of my ethnicity as fraternity, and chose my associations according to my beliefs. So quite simply put, I just didn't live up to YOUR expectations, which frankly I don't give a toss about. Surely you can see the difference?
Now, GPSNYC: I think he got what he deserves, this is what happens when you think you're something that you never were and never will.
The fact that you willingly took the tragic story of someone who in his own words "wanted to live for myself not others" and blamed the victim for his death at the hands of eight unsophisticated, uneducated thugs in an environment that promotes machismo and bullying, just shows how desperate you were in twisting the facts just to make a point. Anybody who is seen to be an easy target is just as likely to fall victim to bullying whether s/he be Asian or Hispanic, or gay, or physically different and weaker than the rest. If Danny Chen were to blame in any way, it would be his naivete of human cruelty and mob mentality in the military environment, but NOT his sense of identity, given that America was all he knew.
But to shift the blame from the perpetrators of a crime to the victim is truly idiotic, akin to suggesting you deserve to be robbed because you carry money.
And you took one example from the thousands of ethnic-minority American soldiers still serving in Afghanistan and portrayed that as the norm. So, should the US Military be segregated again, or better still, just be white only, since in your book nobody else is American? The other ethnics like yourself can just sit back and enjoy the show because you're not American, you're just there to take what the American society can offer, but your allegiance is still steadfastly with China, simply because you are an ethnic Chinese. Nevermind nobody knows you there.
Essentially you are saying "you are not who you know and believe you are, but rather what others think you are, because they are (i) bigger and more powerful than you, and/or (ii)there's more of them" - that sort of mentality is typically China.Taiwan is part of China and you know that's true. Look back in History and no one ever admit Taiwan as a country. and let's not forget what a big f-king sellouts back in days which the 國民黨 who just kept borrowing money from AMERICA to try to fuxk around in China the whole freaking time. Oh yeah.
When the KMT was founded, Taiwan had already been a Japanese colony for more than twenty years. The KMT had sweet fk-all to do with Taiwan until the Commies forced them there in '49, so what has the corruption of the KMT, DURING the period when it ruled China, got to do with ANYTHING? Not following your logic there mate, if there's any.
Taiwan was run as a hardline dictatorship by the KMT until well into the 80s and there had been constant resentment from the public, especially the native Taiwanese, with violent clashes and bloody massacres along the way. So the KMT did not represent the views of the Taiwanese people. If anything, Chiang Kai-shek harboured hopes of reclaiming mainland China, so KMT had always been pro-unification (and evidently, its policies today as a democratically elected government still leans towards appeasing the PRC), so, again, what's your point in bringing up the KMT? Because that's all you know?
Taiwan is not recognised as a country due to diplomatic pressure applied by China since Taiwan's expulsion from the UN in the early 70s, which, again, amounts to bullying as mentioned above. But in all practical sense it is its own country - what is more important: who are YOU to decide the fate of 20 million people given you don't even belong there, it should be up to its citizens whether it wants unification or independence. South Sudan didn't exist as a country this time last year, East Timor wasn't a country 10 years ago, just because a state wasn't an independent nation it should never be one no matter what its people believe? If we were to follow your logic then I guess the Turks should seek to regain sovereignty over the Balkan nations seeing as they were part of the Ottoman Empire about 100 years ago, that's not even as long as as when China lost Taiwan.
What is remarkable is that, despite living in the West, you're all still displaying the a lack of rationality when dealing with subjects that warrant them the most - sovereignty, ethnicity and identity, and opt instead to shout from the top of your lungs "this is absurd/pathetic", "you are a moron" and "that's just how it is" with little logical input. Ironically, these are the traits I associate the most with those I regard as the quintessential "Chinaman" |
發表於 2012-1-9 06:31 PM
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