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my guess is (8+5 = ) total 11 strokes.  (in chinese!)
this is what i think:
' Q; c* Q1 c# a" B; Ltvb now,tvbnow,bttvb8 write in chinese ---> 2 strokes
! I6 p6 d/ ^, J3 r- [  }1 y# b5  ''      ''      ''     ---> 5 strokes公仔箱論壇+ [, K* x. f5 G& |2 X2 s
+  "      "       "     ---> 2 strokes
9 G0 c: U$ U" M& Ctvb now,tvbnow,bttvb=   also                ----> 2 strokes  , so total  11.
3 B$ w% @3 K( }3 i3 k3 A. f" `% _公仔箱論壇let me know if i am wrong....
do you know 8 in traditional chinese, 5 in traditional chinese?
yes
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