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my guess is (8+5 = ) total 11 strokes.  (in chinese!)
this is what i think:公仔箱論壇+ S. q- ?: k4 F# D& K. l3 W
8 write in chinese ---> 2 strokes& e& |$ z9 b; _
5  ''      ''      ''     ---> 5 strokes% y& q7 e0 w4 i, H$ l5 X+ v9 O) S
+  "      "       "     ---> 2 strokes5 i2 f& ]8 Q: v* D1 m0 J
=   also                ----> 2 strokes  , so total  11.
7 ?* }( S' a5 L4 Y. G) Ztvb now,tvbnow,bttvblet me know if i am wrong....
do you know 8 in traditional chinese, 5 in traditional chinese?
yes
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