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my guess is (8+5 = ) total 11 strokes.  (in chinese!)
this is what i think:公仔箱論壇+ N  o& n. N$ J& w
8 write in chinese ---> 2 strokes公仔箱論壇& d/ r6 ~. s9 Z. _1 M# M
5  ''      ''      ''     ---> 5 strokes
- Y& B+ R. j1 F. S2 {+  "      "       "     ---> 2 strokes
/ W* O4 q8 ~0 P. c=   also                ----> 2 strokes  , so total  11.2 z  c/ C7 u/ l) V% C( o- O
let me know if i am wrong....
do you know 8 in traditional chinese, 5 in traditional chinese?
yes
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