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my guess is (8+5 = ) total 11 strokes.  (in chinese!)
this is what i think:tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb, {% b# O) l9 _$ O
8 write in chinese ---> 2 strokes. [& i' N7 V, S) n) G
5  ''      ''      ''     ---> 5 strokes
4 [& t. ~. G1 ^+  "      "       "     ---> 2 strokes公仔箱論壇: x) }- j! E$ c% k* r- J) Z2 n
=   also                ----> 2 strokes  , so total  11.
4 O) ?+ s9 `6 Olet me know if i am wrong....
do you know 8 in traditional chinese, 5 in traditional chinese?
yes
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