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my guess is (8+5 = ) total 11 strokes.  (in chinese!)
this is what i think:5.39.217.77:8898$ e: g* k8 Q! E. c
8 write in chinese ---> 2 strokes
9 ~9 d, B. x0 ^* `" `5  ''      ''      ''     ---> 5 strokes
4 Q5 J! h; {/ Z  |( @+  "      "       "     ---> 2 strokes
4 l& y! ~, [/ D( f- G2 f  Z=   also                ----> 2 strokes  , so total  11.
/ U, P0 ?- Y: J公仔箱論壇let me know if i am wrong....
do you know 8 in traditional chinese, 5 in traditional chinese?
yes
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