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my guess is (8+5 = ) total 11 strokes.  (in chinese!)
this is what i think:: }9 f* z5 G4 j  l, f' n! k: d
8 write in chinese ---> 2 strokes
5 R6 H3 r0 L7 E3 Y$ U" z7 @' y* W5 b5  ''      ''      ''     ---> 5 strokes' a4 ?1 u) Y8 o- x, D, w" Z1 M
+  "      "       "     ---> 2 strokes
) H( ?/ y- a2 t/ k/ c5 D7 R5.39.217.77:8898=   also                ----> 2 strokes  , so total  11.5.39.217.77:8898% v5 |: d4 a2 y7 i3 D
let me know if i am wrong....
do you know 8 in traditional chinese, 5 in traditional chinese?
yes
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