# D3 g" n8 K J @9 Q其他關於<黑色星期天>的資料: & n; A$ i: m4 {2 P* o1 U公仔箱論壇English translation of the original tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb/ V T0 d2 A8 I& y" D
The original song was written in 1933 by two Hungarians, Rezso Seress (music) 5.39.217.77:8898* _7 Z4 M* C' j: N$ P
and Laszlo Javor (lyrics), and consisted of the first two stanza ' h% ^' i0 [# `3 U% C/ l0 qtvb now,tvbnow,bttvbonly -- the last stanza was added later, also first in Hungarian, + i8 w( ~% _5 |TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。as Zoe Orosz from Hungary pointed out to me. 公仔箱論壇7 Q3 o( n$ \, q; ]$ y* q6 Z
Zoe added: 0 w6 v* K- P* ^+ {# | ]
Actually, the second part of the song in Hungarian is not so reassuring at all. tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb/ v0 p. O8 O: v) z( q
It is if at all possible, much gloomier than the first two stanzas, almost apocalyptic. 5.39.217.77:88982 c3 j# v: I9 E( i; k9 g' F b
It looks like the pessimism of the song was too much for the translators and they made their translation a happier one. tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb' q/ Q% N5 [* Z4 `
In that case one might argue that the translator has done a bad job 4 u; P* _' E# W( n- N$ G0 ~; LTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。and 'ruined' the song, or in other words: a translator has to maintain the original spirit TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。6 ~9 i# ]. R5 D! |) Q5 h- O2 `: |
and intentions of the song. On the other hand, 0 W6 E7 y' ~9 J9 o, ?1 MTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。a translator may also be more than just a translator and based on the original create a new song. ' a9 n7 ?( {6 Dtvb now,tvbnow,bttvbPerhaps the Sam Lewis mentioned in the credits is responsible for this. TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。7 n6 u: a2 f! D$ ]4 Z
S: D# j& O# v3 e! e( k9 Btvb now,tvbnow,bttvbZoe Orosz also made a translation into English of the original Hungarian song, adding: 5 r. l) t/ P' ~' g/ _( E( V G* v- t
It looks like Javor wrote the first part and Seress the second. It is very-very gloomy. TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。6 j; o# ]7 B) ^. {3 L
It seems to refer to the horrors of a war at the end. $ l% H \% x. R h) X) t! \% S0 k
I'm glad that there's an English version that makes it less terrible. To be honest, ) F3 c/ Q1 o& t' O& w7 e
I don't think it was ruined at all. We are a very pessimistic people, 公仔箱論壇3 j" q) a& l" s0 \& t- Q
so maybe it was good after all that it was not made popular in its original form. 5.39.217.77:8898/ W; I7 O' V; s
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The war Zoe mentions could be the First World War, as the song originates from the 1930s. & w+ L- P; U0 D/ n s7 R
But since the second part of the song is even more gloomy than the first part, 公仔箱論壇5 X, K: ~; D3 Z. t% K1 ?
the second part may have been added after the Second World War.tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb$ H! F9 `. T- Y; R, d( E
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Someone said that:TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。7 r4 P- p1 _7 y; t! ^
I like this song very much! It is a little jazzy, and Sarah's singing and the music create the right mood for the song. 2 z; \- B) u9 q5 S% K1 |tvb now,tvbnow,bttvbOne thing is very strange, though. The mood changes between the second and the third stanza, 5.39.217.77:8898; F0 e/ h6 q3 o. {2 E
because she wakes up and realises that the gloomy first two stanzas were nothing but a dream and the third stanza is then more chearful. tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb0 Q5 T2 ~) s9 `; m
This change of mood is strangely rather abrupt: 9 b' m }6 ~1 o" \1 Ethe pause is less than a second -- Sarah has barely enough time to catch her breath. / u% S8 q9 C# K2 _$ b* A
I would have expected the change in mood between stanzas two and three to be build up a little more gradually, TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。2 S" y1 M6 _5 Z4 Q
in five to ten seconds or so. After all, waking up and realising that it was a dream takes time. 公仔箱論壇$ N( A2 y# U( D6 t" P9 L# Q+ r1 {8 a
Hazan suggested that the last stanza could still be part of the dream: the singer has lost her lover, 0 G+ W3 \# a1 fTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。continues her mourning in her dream, and as a reaction to the pain wishes it was all but a dream: 公仔箱論壇, @% a. G" D# S" a9 r4 O/ V: {% |2 B
"I find you asleep in the deep of my heart", not next to her in bed. W3 q! g- c! X6 z. N5.39.217.77:8898I do not think this is what is meant here. The change of mood, the use of the words L [+ X/ v+ h9 ~5.39.217.77:8898"I was only dreaming / I wake" and also the lines "I hope / ' U$ e; z$ b7 R公仔箱論壇that my dream never haunted you" make me think that the singer has woken up ! s( }7 _ t1 [+ `, f$ [) l5.39.217.77:8898(though the whole text is written in the past tense). & {0 Z; h* `% U g6 W公仔箱論壇& Y9 w/ x6 H; ?# f5 K6 E9 W5 e
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多關於黑色星期天,大概都話呢首歌係１９３０ｓ死左好多人，後來禁左．後來出左英文版先無咁恐怖（之前應該仲恐怖） / n2 W$ M* z4 Z" [+ b2 d! Ltvb now,tvbnow,bttvb"It seems to refer to the horrors of a war at the end. % Y p9 A* n3 j# H% f& s! \8 l5.39.217.77:8898I'm glad that there's an English version that makes it less terrible. - b" p- T C3 gTo be honest, I don't think it was ruined at all.We are a very pessimistic people, 公仔箱論壇, {0 m6 B7 F+ J& ^
so maybe it was good after all that it was not made popular in its original form." tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb$ A7 J3 K C/ f) M
就係呢個啦.... 公仔箱論壇! M: k/ U" b; P0 D9 ~% v' k
仲有套movie係關於首歌,叫做"Ein Lied von Lieve und Tod -- Gloomy Sunday" ! d( w% _3 \2 g& v! i8 ~) g/ Z! ]0 D* K公仔箱論壇TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。: Z6 P. X" \: ]) a
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作曲者不是法國的，而是匈牙利的Rezso Seress，1935年作。 % n4 {, h7 G7 `; |% ztvb now,tvbnow,bttvb被翻成了無數版本，英文是其中之一 公仔箱論壇8 s" v7 E0 t* S2 _0 c9 l5 Z
翻唱者： M9 d+ r" p' Y4 s1 Ctvb now,tvbnow,bttvbBillie Holliday, Louis Armstrong, Sammy Davis Jr., Elvis Costello, Stan Kenton, Ray Charles, 5 o" t- h @. [2 @* R. R1 J. c7 W' S
Josephine Baker, Sinead O’Connor, Maurice Chevalier, Tom Jones, Mantovani, Lydia Lunch, Bjork, 3 l& {% E2 |, gSarah MacLachlan，Christian Death, Gitane Demone.... 5.39.217.77:8898' {+ i e$ K' X3 \- i& q
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