2 T/ P5 x( X, f( Q其他關於<黑色星期天>的資料: " U: h, E; g a7 Q公仔箱論壇English translation of the original 9 ?" F' t; @' s+ n0 I# c7 btvb now,tvbnow,bttvbThe original song was written in 1933 by two Hungarians, Rezso Seress (music) ' ]' q9 p/ t, T3 o" Zand Laszlo Javor (lyrics), and consisted of the first two stanza 公仔箱論壇5 A% R7 _: j: A/ ^, z Y
only -- the last stanza was added later, also first in Hungarian, 5.39.217.77:8898# `1 {% t" H6 y% }
as Zoe Orosz from Hungary pointed out to me. 5.39.217.77:88988 ~" P4 \0 z, ^* g% \
Zoe added: 4 G( l2 @1 F" K) Z& Q/ UActually, the second part of the song in Hungarian is not so reassuring at all. TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。2 u9 g2 X: B2 S( O- k
It is if at all possible, much gloomier than the first two stanzas, almost apocalyptic. TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。 o/ _. f0 i# Y, ]3 R
It looks like the pessimism of the song was too much for the translators and they made their translation a happier one. 7 b5 m# t: F' WTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。In that case one might argue that the translator has done a bad job " p4 p x- }0 }8 \) Z5 J5 ^4 Dand 'ruined' the song, or in other words: a translator has to maintain the original spirit 1 _' q1 g" X" A/ @/ L* \% s
and intentions of the song. On the other hand, 3 Y2 }) `& M. x7 i* y/ Fa translator may also be more than just a translator and based on the original create a new song. 9 u9 [( x: ]8 T& b6 j& h5.39.217.77:8898Perhaps the Sam Lewis mentioned in the credits is responsible for this. 1 s! ?5 A5 |$ u# j2 X8 x1 V( b! }9 [/ M1 ?0 x+ m& m
Zoe Orosz also made a translation into English of the original Hungarian song, adding: 公仔箱論壇+ t$ N f6 Z; v7 h
It looks like Javor wrote the first part and Seress the second. It is very-very gloomy. / ^+ W2 K1 m, n/ S, |公仔箱論壇It seems to refer to the horrors of a war at the end. tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb. s8 e# W! u. T/ w1 }
I'm glad that there's an English version that makes it less terrible. To be honest, ' k5 s" d" H- y$ f5 q公仔箱論壇I don't think it was ruined at all. We are a very pessimistic people, + R0 Q8 e5 v) I: j' U
so maybe it was good after all that it was not made popular in its original form. 2 l$ y) F3 h' b: R& o! y, i8 ^, M公仔箱論壇 1 S* F+ r1 i$ M: M4 }$ _2 j; f4 qThe war Zoe mentions could be the First World War, as the song originates from the 1930s. % Y. h2 v, T" S$ C5 c
But since the second part of the song is even more gloomy than the first part, 9 A! u& N; J7 ?! k) J/ G3 Gtvb now,tvbnow,bttvbthe second part may have been added after the Second World War. & O" w3 h$ b' J# G' d' I3 g& @1 J( {) E + W3 G8 w/ O9 E% RTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。5.39.217.77:8898+ j! K. m; O5 t
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Someone said that:公仔箱論壇2 T4 _ b8 |0 v I4 {
I like this song very much! It is a little jazzy, and Sarah's singing and the music create the right mood for the song. % o6 V \. x$ S, m( N* \
One thing is very strange, though. The mood changes between the second and the third stanza, 2 k4 E I* N$ I a* Vbecause she wakes up and realises that the gloomy first two stanzas were nothing but a dream and the third stanza is then more chearful. tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb D6 c, I. k! w$ X
This change of mood is strangely rather abrupt: ' ]. m5 m5 J! f3 s' ^6 M公仔箱論壇the pause is less than a second -- Sarah has barely enough time to catch her breath. $ i) s: l I n0 `2 |
I would have expected the change in mood between stanzas two and three to be build up a little more gradually, 5.39.217.77:8898/ e' |3 N- U* s5 q1 T4 g
in five to ten seconds or so. After all, waking up and realising that it was a dream takes time. % b Y" O. c# q3 E4 K$ b" DHazan suggested that the last stanza could still be part of the dream: the singer has lost her lover, TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。$ w# u7 s+ K: O" F, V$ y( e
continues her mourning in her dream, and as a reaction to the pain wishes it was all but a dream: 4 _) D' G1 p* I( nTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。"I find you asleep in the deep of my heart", not next to her in bed. TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。& L: t. l/ r* Q- i9 [4 v
I do not think this is what is meant here. The change of mood, the use of the words / M& v4 r( j( R3 K ~) r5.39.217.77:8898"I was only dreaming / I wake" and also the lines "I hope / 9 I7 B: U z4 r% e) WTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。that my dream never haunted you" make me think that the singer has woken up 公仔箱論壇% p# ^4 C a4 V: Q; w
(though the whole text is written in the past tense).TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。% E( v5 h8 ]9 S4 q: L
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7 F/ s, v$ X' l8 C& ?" \2 D多關於黑色星期天,大概都話呢首歌係１９３０ｓ死左好多人，後來禁左．後來出左英文版先無咁恐怖（之前應該仲恐怖） tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb# S' P0 }7 q) x: s6 W D
"It seems to refer to the horrors of a war at the end. 8 t* G9 R6 ~& K) Z( K5 YI'm glad that there's an English version that makes it less terrible. 5 C I$ R; j. ^+ ?! W" l2 CTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。To be honest, I don't think it was ruined at all.We are a very pessimistic people, $ N* D4 X2 H! V4 ?3 c, M0 O# e% S4 ?7 p
so maybe it was good after all that it was not made popular in its original form." ( z5 D8 K; n2 ~* [. U- ~( U公仔箱論壇就係呢個啦.... tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb. j: }3 \9 ~2 p" v% F& n: E5 r$ e
仲有套movie係關於首歌,叫做"Ein Lied von Lieve und Tod -- Gloomy Sunday"公仔箱論壇6 l% `' }5 p1 s
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作曲者不是法國的，而是匈牙利的Rezso Seress，1935年作。 - j, ]+ x% g/ U& o9 }. s I0 R% R公仔箱論壇被翻成了無數版本，英文是其中之一 TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。% [: l! |5 s1 v0 C( {
翻唱者： % r. ^+ D2 ]- H, N$ ~" ~1 n$ Ytvb now,tvbnow,bttvbBillie Holliday, Louis Armstrong, Sammy Davis Jr., Elvis Costello, Stan Kenton, Ray Charles, ) t v6 [, ]5 I1 [/ H$ n公仔箱論壇Josephine Baker, Sinead O’Connor, Maurice Chevalier, Tom Jones, Mantovani, Lydia Lunch, Bjork, 5.39.217.77:88981 _. A; f7 _" _- ~9 T
Sarah MacLachlan，Christian Death, Gitane Demone.... 7 x; N7 U0 {+ j. W1 S ^8 F5.39.217.77:8898公仔箱論壇) f" i. E: z9 W& ?, {+ x$ z1 R
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