# V3 A3 r" A7 H7 y3 a其他關於<黑色星期天>的資料: . z) j8 l- b, y# n9 t0 T
English translation of the original 1 J0 t" Z6 h# u3 H6 E% z7 V" E公仔箱論壇The original song was written in 1933 by two Hungarians, Rezso Seress (music) $ s& |/ D$ ~! A. w6 b* Vand Laszlo Javor (lyrics), and consisted of the first two stanza , Z% U# d1 `+ ~+ {1 u! B
only -- the last stanza was added later, also first in Hungarian, 8 m5 w9 N; n/ h公仔箱論壇as Zoe Orosz from Hungary pointed out to me. 公仔箱論壇, n( h. t; S( x1 E y
Zoe added: 4 k+ B! w" ~; z& o7 D- O$ P公仔箱論壇Actually, the second part of the song in Hungarian is not so reassuring at all. tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb. T& K" g2 p: w( G1 L4 R; B5 u
It is if at all possible, much gloomier than the first two stanzas, almost apocalyptic. ( s* c3 w. V! m! ~5 ?6 H \
It looks like the pessimism of the song was too much for the translators and they made their translation a happier one. TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。9 Q- A! v7 p% Y1 A0 Y
In that case one might argue that the translator has done a bad job 3 C* L: a( X0 I1 g6 A5 M2 U+ Q
and 'ruined' the song, or in other words: a translator has to maintain the original spirit / ^6 X; _- Q7 m3 _TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。and intentions of the song. On the other hand, & @4 u2 S g% J/ Z i; H公仔箱論壇a translator may also be more than just a translator and based on the original create a new song. 5.39.217.77:8898/ n7 I$ X7 r$ s$ R6 I
Perhaps the Sam Lewis mentioned in the credits is responsible for this. $ S/ V- a) n6 s% L3 L% D) n
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Zoe Orosz also made a translation into English of the original Hungarian song, adding: ' W& W+ {8 T% S4 S/ p `
It looks like Javor wrote the first part and Seress the second. It is very-very gloomy. - G( B$ W' U/ }: r9 FIt seems to refer to the horrors of a war at the end. # R+ l# n( x$ J# y2 G5 \7 `TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。I'm glad that there's an English version that makes it less terrible. To be honest, 3 t `# F: y k% A- l8 i9 `公仔箱論壇I don't think it was ruined at all. We are a very pessimistic people, 2 b# n# m5 @& L5 aso maybe it was good after all that it was not made popular in its original form. ' r7 i' k7 W% s5 _* J; s+ ? m
9 m& L% V, e6 V1 T9 D+ v公仔箱論壇The war Zoe mentions could be the First World War, as the song originates from the 1930s. # ~8 k& G0 z. U) G. wtvb now,tvbnow,bttvbBut since the second part of the song is even more gloomy than the first part, 公仔箱論壇0 |8 g+ S% `; S- \5 C
the second part may have been added after the Second World War. 6 ~; S: u2 w+ \3 g/ N0 o公仔箱論壇 ( b" o- \8 A I9 z* b0 j3 V' S4 Y1 f" q6 Q
4 A7 E0 ~% g. w+ N$ S7 iTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。Someone said that:tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb4 g9 x% s4 V( }* v$ M- T, e6 L
I like this song very much! It is a little jazzy, and Sarah's singing and the music create the right mood for the song. TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。2 @# I8 k3 T% f0 H. s# p1 m
One thing is very strange, though. The mood changes between the second and the third stanza, ( n( S6 f; f8 P: w0 p
because she wakes up and realises that the gloomy first two stanzas were nothing but a dream and the third stanza is then more chearful. / g/ e, C+ m+ z8 {4 {& P; dThis change of mood is strangely rather abrupt: 公仔箱論壇# C8 v# U3 k5 p) @% W% T
the pause is less than a second -- Sarah has barely enough time to catch her breath. # k* J& m" }$ c% D; w) X( a' Utvb now,tvbnow,bttvbI would have expected the change in mood between stanzas two and three to be build up a little more gradually, . c, ^0 P- x' K$ }9 u
in five to ten seconds or so. After all, waking up and realising that it was a dream takes time. / Q- t" ^8 N0 GHazan suggested that the last stanza could still be part of the dream: the singer has lost her lover, ) r* @: A) Z* m8 ?( [" VTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。continues her mourning in her dream, and as a reaction to the pain wishes it was all but a dream: 5 r0 X w! u4 V8 j: t7 D- L"I find you asleep in the deep of my heart", not next to her in bed. ) o5 G6 E. ^2 F公仔箱論壇I do not think this is what is meant here. The change of mood, the use of the words * Q; E3 |" k0 Q" b1 c; I
"I was only dreaming / I wake" and also the lines "I hope / , }$ t5 h0 u+ A; ~+ E0 V+ B" WTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。that my dream never haunted you" make me think that the singer has woken up 4 p" p2 d0 `6 k6 ^3 \8 U- q" D(though the whole text is written in the past tense). 9 h3 l" |% P' D u8 l; ^& a8 |( N公仔箱論壇 / F" u7 }6 _3 u. q4 O2 y% c: o" r
多關於黑色星期天,大概都話呢首歌係1930s死左好多人,後來禁左.後來出左英文版先無咁恐怖(之前應該仲恐怖) ; |5 u; V1 G, R' w"It seems to refer to the horrors of a war at the end. & ~. G$ ^3 L- R4 V: w, k5 a' xTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。I'm glad that there's an English version that makes it less terrible. ; z- X, K7 g9 V, H4 E; s: U$ ETVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。To be honest, I don't think it was ruined at all.We are a very pessimistic people, - c' J* a; S! l" g: k5 y' r# z# yso maybe it was good after all that it was not made popular in its original form." % R) [; ~8 W- K8 L) n7 C- X" k& l就係呢個啦.... 0 z0 c x! m( c2 d7 ~仲有套movie係關於首歌,叫做"Ein Lied von Lieve und Tod -- Gloomy Sunday" ; Y$ }: F, s7 g" rtvb now,tvbnow,bttvb公仔箱論壇! m7 D; S. ]# L3 H1 N" ]( O' Y( U8 o
P$ \2 N- E' N3 y( u8 vtvb now,tvbnow,bttvb作曲者不是法國的,而是匈牙利的Rezso Seress,1935年作。 公仔箱論壇3 l8 j9 D2 X2 l) c6 K+ f
被翻成了無數版本,英文是其中之一 : Q# s& z6 ^$ l8 {- M' h, D5 e公仔箱論壇翻唱者: ( H; V0 v) y' |. W1 D1 h
Billie Holliday, Louis Armstrong, Sammy Davis Jr., Elvis Costello, Stan Kenton, Ray Charles, `/ h( D. Z. a0 j3 _0 `2 t5 X3 m% L" W
Josephine Baker, Sinead O’Connor, Maurice Chevalier, Tom Jones, Mantovani, Lydia Lunch, Bjork, ' C9 P6 u9 a7 rSarah MacLachlan,Christian Death, Gitane Demone.... + G$ O7 B- S7 V+ p1 M5 j
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