1 ^: z& b" S6 n0 C9 |$ `: I( n" {公仔箱論壇由於自殺的人越來越多,美、英、法、西班子等諸多國家的電臺便召開了 一次特別會議,號昭歐美各國聯合抵制《黑色的星期天》。 ' @9 f( Z0 ]! p7 D8 I E/ L! a9 g5.39.217.77:8898 8 g4 Q! E6 b$ b- o8 J公仔箱論壇這首殺人的樂曲終於被銷毀了,作者也因為內疚而在臨終前懺悔道: 4 U/ F. |! k1 ~; t0 t「沒 想到,這首樂曲給 人類帶來了如此多的災難, 讓上帝在另一個世界來懲罰我的靈魂吧!」 q! v' b$ H. H0 U+ c5 n$ W" [5.39.217.77:8898 0 p$ d7 `: n+ M) h5 f) X, btvb now,tvbnow,bttvb ) @+ n. ]6 l4 D( t5 g5.39.217.77:8898 ; U3 S# p! V: G其他關於<黑色星期天>的資料: 6 A+ O- @9 n$ ^5.39.217.77:8898English translation of the original 3 D" {8 q2 d8 {0 o) Y; Y" Etvb now,tvbnow,bttvbThe original song was written in 1933 by two Hungarians, Rezso Seress (music) 0 c; Q7 f, J/ q2 Y" d% f5.39.217.77:8898and Laszlo Javor (lyrics), and consisted of the first two stanza + n; h: b! m( N
only -- the last stanza was added later, also first in Hungarian, $ v% S9 u$ N W X4 P" u! L1 L
as Zoe Orosz from Hungary pointed out to me. 5 z) H6 ?' M$ R) D0 Z8 V Ztvb now,tvbnow,bttvbZoe added: 公仔箱論壇; `8 K/ t" B! K2 i- ]% z
Actually, the second part of the song in Hungarian is not so reassuring at all. 9 j1 _: ~5 b& `$ q/ g, l4 IIt is if at all possible, much gloomier than the first two stanzas, almost apocalyptic. : ~. }3 g* `) b5 U3 ~ p公仔箱論壇It looks like the pessimism of the song was too much for the translators and they made their translation a happier one. 5.39.217.77:88985 I. @# W6 p. ^6 c0 h9 f
In that case one might argue that the translator has done a bad job 公仔箱論壇& a! F s2 I8 h' o
and 'ruined' the song, or in other words: a translator has to maintain the original spirit ; X- Y; b. z. e$ L: S, o# d) u: G5.39.217.77:8898and intentions of the song. On the other hand, tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb( i, c, @. b" ?* }* l) B, x
a translator may also be more than just a translator and based on the original create a new song. 7 _ g+ e) h' J& mtvb now,tvbnow,bttvbPerhaps the Sam Lewis mentioned in the credits is responsible for this. 4 h$ y) K) {0 \. A( E2 s% J" U: `2 \( \& b
Zoe Orosz also made a translation into English of the original Hungarian song, adding: 0 }" C) f1 a _/ I- \+ t公仔箱論壇It looks like Javor wrote the first part and Seress the second. It is very-very gloomy. TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。+ Z9 D j2 a4 E7 [) O0 b9 P
It seems to refer to the horrors of a war at the end. TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。" Q% s$ H& @2 C+ L
I'm glad that there's an English version that makes it less terrible. To be honest, 公仔箱論壇3 ^8 U5 ?9 m4 v7 S
I don't think it was ruined at all. We are a very pessimistic people, 1 T# i {6 X! o- h0 KTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。so maybe it was good after all that it was not made popular in its original form. . U( H: L0 X3 J! d8 t/ M" C! w公仔箱論壇 4 z: n, P4 j3 Y2 LTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。The war Zoe mentions could be the First World War, as the song originates from the 1930s. 9 C. O1 R; J8 Ptvb now,tvbnow,bttvbBut since the second part of the song is even more gloomy than the first part, 5.39.217.77:88989 I6 l. g% m; M2 ~+ c2 z9 R
the second part may have been added after the Second World War. , t& ?1 K9 p9 f9 q% t0 z" Z, Gtvb now,tvbnow,bttvbtvb now,tvbnow,bttvb* G# t3 ~; l: s
! i/ k. u1 V4 m" g: W: Utvb now,tvbnow,bttvb ' c' F# c9 f' F- xTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。Someone said that: 4 a( Z9 T/ n- ~% q6 u5 U公仔箱論壇I like this song very much! It is a little jazzy, and Sarah's singing and the music create the right mood for the song. + o5 w9 s1 v' Y( t$ t3 I: P9 _TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。One thing is very strange, though. The mood changes between the second and the third stanza, 8 [; l/ W; Z8 d+ sbecause she wakes up and realises that the gloomy first two stanzas were nothing but a dream and the third stanza is then more chearful. . j% q d: ^& O% m) m
This change of mood is strangely rather abrupt: tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb, A2 t. {; `( f+ W7 o. B) I' v" `, Q
the pause is less than a second -- Sarah has barely enough time to catch her breath. 7 E+ j& T& }0 E$ F! h e2 JI would have expected the change in mood between stanzas two and three to be build up a little more gradually, : ^8 x4 t4 ^6 V) r$ c8 s5 L6 b O1 T
in five to ten seconds or so. After all, waking up and realising that it was a dream takes time. 1 z+ p; ?( q1 W& N2 g* n3 U
Hazan suggested that the last stanza could still be part of the dream: the singer has lost her lover, 8 `, |$ d9 u V& z6 r) p
continues her mourning in her dream, and as a reaction to the pain wishes it was all but a dream: 8 ~5 l+ _: I6 Y! Y. m5.39.217.77:8898"I find you asleep in the deep of my heart", not next to her in bed. # Z3 k7 b$ {( O" Q8 t3 H; u2 \7 E公仔箱論壇I do not think this is what is meant here. The change of mood, the use of the words . y0 P" c* }6 u' N5 j"I was only dreaming / I wake" and also the lines "I hope / 5.39.217.77:8898, B3 B7 v: q9 j" P. M( T
that my dream never haunted you" make me think that the singer has woken up 5.39.217.77:88988 r9 r5 N2 d/ l# f
(though the whole text is written in the past tense).* W9 {! d# L2 E+ m2 s9 L* r6 b' k! B
3 l) h) d4 F$ V. I9 Rtvb now,tvbnow,bttvb 7 [5 P1 R7 c4 v* o! VTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。多關於黑色星期天,大概都話呢首歌係1930s死左好多人,後來禁左.後來出左英文版先無咁恐怖(之前應該仲恐怖) 4 b6 I" w+ G: {2 a
"It seems to refer to the horrors of a war at the end. 1 G, d6 Q% O" Z* H# zI'm glad that there's an English version that makes it less terrible. ( i% |( R, S+ f2 atvb now,tvbnow,bttvbTo be honest, I don't think it was ruined at all.We are a very pessimistic people, - u5 d0 |' R2 c7 B* ^! o H0 x* l- ?
so maybe it was good after all that it was not made popular in its original form." 公仔箱論壇8 x5 Y3 R6 H0 |* y6 `( T8 X' h5 N4 o/ b
就係呢個啦.... " `( o' w# v# e( u5 v% P9 y仲有套movie係關於首歌,叫做"Ein Lied von Lieve und Tod -- Gloomy Sunday" 9 P- l! {) B: [) pTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。 ; k% W% B, Z5 O, I, U- }$ m, U( w K4 G' K
作曲者不是法國的,而是匈牙利的Rezso Seress,1935年作。 4 F/ n& i2 ?2 x% o! S6 _4 i被翻成了無數版本,英文是其中之一 * r& g' f) f9 y5 P; ^% X- w翻唱者: 公仔箱論壇9 l, }$ m. k3 M7 J V) Y
Billie Holliday, Louis Armstrong, Sammy Davis Jr., Elvis Costello, Stan Kenton, Ray Charles, 5.39.217.77:8898: T+ [! Z( ]8 K8 g6 A, S
Josephine Baker, Sinead O’Connor, Maurice Chevalier, Tom Jones, Mantovani, Lydia Lunch, Bjork, 公仔箱論壇 h0 M7 l A( | U5 H9 B
Sarah MacLachlan,Christian Death, Gitane Demone.... * M7 ^* Z4 W" itvb now,tvbnow,bttvb5.39.217.77:88989 \. M0 t% c5 l
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