3 P5 C% c) [! k$ Q" g公仔箱論壇由於自殺的人越來越多,美、英、法、西班子等諸多國家的電臺便召開了 一次特別會議,號昭歐美各國聯合抵制《黑色的星期天》。 5.39.217.77:88981 n: {4 b( E' w& E& V9 d
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這首殺人的樂曲終於被銷毀了,作者也因為內疚而在臨終前懺悔道: ; b2 p. j J. ]) V, B「沒 想到,這首樂曲給 人類帶來了如此多的災難, 讓上帝在另一個世界來懲罰我的靈魂吧!」 ) V9 ]1 l6 Q8 S& jTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。/ W" w2 z Q1 m+ S, b
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其他關於<黑色星期天>的資料: TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。' G9 b+ y$ l8 C' Q* s
English translation of the original 4 q0 y+ `7 n$ r5 A: b& ]TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。The original song was written in 1933 by two Hungarians, Rezso Seress (music) - U5 i( ~+ X, c( M
and Laszlo Javor (lyrics), and consisted of the first two stanza 9 a0 G; [/ R* C9 C& B, donly -- the last stanza was added later, also first in Hungarian, 3 P# o+ R5 V8 V7 [! A) pas Zoe Orosz from Hungary pointed out to me. ! l2 L4 W8 }0 x) [6 P( K, j ^公仔箱論壇Zoe added: ; [0 c n5 J( k+ ~1 x% T2 V5 l公仔箱論壇Actually, the second part of the song in Hungarian is not so reassuring at all. tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb# I* {" l, |9 T. {5 d
It is if at all possible, much gloomier than the first two stanzas, almost apocalyptic. ! M6 l8 \& Q: `# ATVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。It looks like the pessimism of the song was too much for the translators and they made their translation a happier one. 4 ^# [/ W, i, X% J I2 ]- y
In that case one might argue that the translator has done a bad job 7 b0 k3 u, l( F: Etvb now,tvbnow,bttvband 'ruined' the song, or in other words: a translator has to maintain the original spirit tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb: n, y$ d0 l% i
and intentions of the song. On the other hand, & j2 { r! U3 _$ }4 D' x, e) {- n
a translator may also be more than just a translator and based on the original create a new song. ! c- ]) `0 @: ?# U$ B! R5.39.217.77:8898Perhaps the Sam Lewis mentioned in the credits is responsible for this. ! z1 V4 {( X0 {公仔箱論壇 - O8 j0 b& | ]Zoe Orosz also made a translation into English of the original Hungarian song, adding: " {! W5 b& p9 n8 t+ o( EIt looks like Javor wrote the first part and Seress the second. It is very-very gloomy. 5.39.217.77:88983 N8 O# M$ @- _% ]7 d0 o
It seems to refer to the horrors of a war at the end. ; g) g) o4 t: T! E- b. M X* N0 ttvb now,tvbnow,bttvbI'm glad that there's an English version that makes it less terrible. To be honest, 8 ^ `3 J, d6 x- w
I don't think it was ruined at all. We are a very pessimistic people, 公仔箱論壇$ X1 J0 S* }# U3 z! l4 }1 X
so maybe it was good after all that it was not made popular in its original form. 7 B6 e `! a& i2 |5 wtvb now,tvbnow,bttvb公仔箱論壇: E' ^/ o. o' `2 M5 k% `2 P
The war Zoe mentions could be the First World War, as the song originates from the 1930s. " `8 g$ o# E" ^4 O7 L/ \( Y1 X, otvb now,tvbnow,bttvbBut since the second part of the song is even more gloomy than the first part, - `- Q' _& L$ r. |5 q3 ~2 Ntvb now,tvbnow,bttvbthe second part may have been added after the Second World War.5 ]7 f4 k" C9 V5 Y1 X0 M
TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。% C' i8 B" {, _0 n6 U
[6 @) O; P" |0 R$ l- [7 A: w" ETVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。 : I. Q% Z" ~/ d5.39.217.77:8898Someone said that: ! Z$ r' j! t( Otvb now,tvbnow,bttvbI like this song very much! It is a little jazzy, and Sarah's singing and the music create the right mood for the song. 5.39.217.77:88982 x0 u& M; R4 z Q6 G5 L K
One thing is very strange, though. The mood changes between the second and the third stanza, ' @/ I$ L0 I4 @. B( j; z3 ?$ I
because she wakes up and realises that the gloomy first two stanzas were nothing but a dream and the third stanza is then more chearful. 0 D! P- A5 w, p8 q& f7 v5 hThis change of mood is strangely rather abrupt: 5 M3 g# w$ F+ e( |! E# [the pause is less than a second -- Sarah has barely enough time to catch her breath. 2 D% h- g: a9 l! ~tvb now,tvbnow,bttvbI would have expected the change in mood between stanzas two and three to be build up a little more gradually, 5.39.217.77:8898: {! G. A. Z9 j' `
in five to ten seconds or so. After all, waking up and realising that it was a dream takes time. % X7 ]) v5 Z6 ]4 Q# Y# ]* x5.39.217.77:8898Hazan suggested that the last stanza could still be part of the dream: the singer has lost her lover, 5 l2 G0 ]( \4 h- v( H( `& q3 ZTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。continues her mourning in her dream, and as a reaction to the pain wishes it was all but a dream: 公仔箱論壇" h1 [% ^; I9 t4 V1 p4 Y1 }7 D3 N
"I find you asleep in the deep of my heart", not next to her in bed. ; x) V: d" n$ }( F) @8 U, Z4 Z5.39.217.77:8898I do not think this is what is meant here. The change of mood, the use of the words 3 l6 P0 p' K$ i8 D- c, ~
"I was only dreaming / I wake" and also the lines "I hope / , ?3 t+ h* F7 R, k8 _; \5.39.217.77:8898that my dream never haunted you" make me think that the singer has woken up ' n: A9 T6 }9 I$ {" S" qtvb now,tvbnow,bttvb(though the whole text is written in the past tense). 4 `1 ]! `* f( D9 _4 n" C( q 1 G, s* m8 S v公仔箱論壇 9 s$ O+ E6 E6 {0 B& }4 A0 ^tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb多關於黑色星期天,大概都話呢首歌係1930s死左好多人,後來禁左.後來出左英文版先無咁恐怖(之前應該仲恐怖) ; h* q7 o5 @- H4 v, Y"It seems to refer to the horrors of a war at the end. 5.39.217.77:8898$ s! C( D5 F* a: y! n0 T/ A3 m
I'm glad that there's an English version that makes it less terrible. ( L& d' c6 ?1 f& A: A0 N. h, zTo be honest, I don't think it was ruined at all.We are a very pessimistic people, * H" Y, `% n7 A% P8 O) Q+ h; ftvb now,tvbnow,bttvbso maybe it was good after all that it was not made popular in its original form." 5.39.217.77:88989 u$ I Y9 k$ M
就係呢個啦.... tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb* k1 s- Z. D) i) B4 F* b6 X
仲有套movie係關於首歌,叫做"Ein Lied von Lieve und Tod -- Gloomy Sunday" % V, S" _+ |+ m; y# ttvb now,tvbnow,bttvb公仔箱論壇& q( a+ V1 }; u& ]0 ]
, L \$ F0 n$ q9 n& [ r/ ?$ R作曲者不是法國的,而是匈牙利的Rezso Seress,1935年作。 " ?- W+ g) f9 o3 \! q& j& Rtvb now,tvbnow,bttvb被翻成了無數版本,英文是其中之一 . }! l7 K0 [; o5 M4 ^% v' d
翻唱者: ) `) R, L7 K7 C. S- T' F5.39.217.77:8898Billie Holliday, Louis Armstrong, Sammy Davis Jr., Elvis Costello, Stan Kenton, Ray Charles, ; N( [+ U# P$ C$ Z2 `' R7 r# Z- `: U
Josephine Baker, Sinead O’Connor, Maurice Chevalier, Tom Jones, Mantovani, Lydia Lunch, Bjork, , z* p. T0 ^2 {公仔箱論壇Sarah MacLachlan,Christian Death, Gitane Demone.... + J! F1 C# j8 f
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