! S/ A: V8 y8 i9 `2 h2 n3 v: jTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。由於自殺的人越來越多，美、英、法、西班子等諸多國家的電臺便召開了 一次特別會議，號昭歐美各國聯合抵制《黑色的星期天》。 tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb( E! q# E. D( J% O K
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這首殺人的樂曲終於被銷毀了，作者也因為內疚而在臨終前懺悔道：5.39.217.77:88986 L1 E' W3 X$ V
「沒 想到，這首樂曲給 人類帶來了如此多的災難， 讓上帝在另一個世界來懲罰我的靈魂吧！」 tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb# G# o% l u' L, u) t' ?9 l
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其他關於<黑色星期天>的資料: 9 n% J) ^. b* S+ mEnglish translation of the original 公仔箱論壇6 {$ K) p/ }" H8 q2 j% h
The original song was written in 1933 by two Hungarians, Rezso Seress (music) ( N3 c3 e; e6 ~6 }$ A
and Laszlo Javor (lyrics), and consisted of the first two stanza ! h) \4 x' @5 J7 J0 y$ `$ oonly -- the last stanza was added later, also first in Hungarian, 9 c* w* D" u; ?2 b/ G! B$ U公仔箱論壇as Zoe Orosz from Hungary pointed out to me. 2 R/ I" N) H4 ~) a9 {1 VTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。Zoe added: % l5 d# _( S6 Z7 u( U6 {. h" r
Actually, the second part of the song in Hungarian is not so reassuring at all. 3 _/ A! @/ `3 q+ z+ Y$ o. j4 c' e公仔箱論壇It is if at all possible, much gloomier than the first two stanzas, almost apocalyptic. ! W! ]7 |6 @6 o2 Q6 d
It looks like the pessimism of the song was too much for the translators and they made their translation a happier one. TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。: l2 o$ D5 g9 ~( b D4 \0 V
In that case one might argue that the translator has done a bad job / R5 p( _% k @7 I( X1 t: v! F @TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。and 'ruined' the song, or in other words: a translator has to maintain the original spirit TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。( x4 H" b: ~5 d
and intentions of the song. On the other hand, $ B- z/ x) } K, I! q6 atvb now,tvbnow,bttvba translator may also be more than just a translator and based on the original create a new song. 2 x( Z# Y1 B. t( V \! `( L3 GPerhaps the Sam Lewis mentioned in the credits is responsible for this. 9 I; y9 W+ K X
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Zoe Orosz also made a translation into English of the original Hungarian song, adding: 5.39.217.77:88980 j; {: h; s5 v* A8 q0 m
It looks like Javor wrote the first part and Seress the second. It is very-very gloomy. 公仔箱論壇5 [# c& A2 U$ E
It seems to refer to the horrors of a war at the end. 3 A6 y( z9 a5 h1 a5.39.217.77:8898I'm glad that there's an English version that makes it less terrible. To be honest, tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb7 x; {7 Q" ]7 p0 X5 U" k
I don't think it was ruined at all. We are a very pessimistic people, 5.39.217.77:8898( ]( l, a! Y7 }
so maybe it was good after all that it was not made popular in its original form. $ r" P6 n$ ^0 |6 K4 e 0 ?) O1 t3 I. U* G0 t2 h公仔箱論壇The war Zoe mentions could be the First World War, as the song originates from the 1930s. % S, O/ h9 t9 `- n2 Ttvb now,tvbnow,bttvbBut since the second part of the song is even more gloomy than the first part, 公仔箱論壇* U. y# H/ E) r* O2 j0 e3 m1 u; C
the second part may have been added after the Second World War. 3 `( m7 t% u3 y7 W! V v! h( w) k0 j8 b6 S0 i8 E# z1 G
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* {; j& Y1 @- D' u* cSomeone said that:5.39.217.77:88985 G) {2 r& \! S b3 ?
I like this song very much! It is a little jazzy, and Sarah's singing and the music create the right mood for the song. ) A8 R, {! w8 Q! p( |* f6 pOne thing is very strange, though. The mood changes between the second and the third stanza, & ^8 S9 Q2 U' w
because she wakes up and realises that the gloomy first two stanzas were nothing but a dream and the third stanza is then more chearful. / m& r+ U% m7 D/ vThis change of mood is strangely rather abrupt: ( `# L: \$ f3 \the pause is less than a second -- Sarah has barely enough time to catch her breath. - `% r' \+ c) N( LTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。I would have expected the change in mood between stanzas two and three to be build up a little more gradually, . t4 o. i" F5 L n$ V! l0 Btvb now,tvbnow,bttvbin five to ten seconds or so. After all, waking up and realising that it was a dream takes time. 7 l/ g5 B3 \1 ~8 E# O4 }tvb now,tvbnow,bttvbHazan suggested that the last stanza could still be part of the dream: the singer has lost her lover, 0 M! b0 }, x6 _$ u' y; qcontinues her mourning in her dream, and as a reaction to the pain wishes it was all but a dream: & m4 E0 h k8 l6 I+ n% i"I find you asleep in the deep of my heart", not next to her in bed. 公仔箱論壇( p& w( B" Y! Y j' b0 A. w
I do not think this is what is meant here. The change of mood, the use of the words & M) `1 N# j3 [/ S公仔箱論壇"I was only dreaming / I wake" and also the lines "I hope / 8 k5 E: k2 }( L+ b3 G1 C
that my dream never haunted you" make me think that the singer has woken up ; _2 e! g/ h! x+ c) ]/ s; g/ [(though the whole text is written in the past tense). , C7 l: ^! e! x7 _5 t1 `: ?tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb ( n* I* X3 j: K; ?. ~8 n ! f+ q4 R1 r# [多關於黑色星期天,大概都話呢首歌係１９３０ｓ死左好多人，後來禁左．後來出左英文版先無咁恐怖（之前應該仲恐怖） " T8 j4 a$ R8 y' A8 B公仔箱論壇"It seems to refer to the horrors of a war at the end. % }9 |% V+ t8 `: h% E! F3 J; I5.39.217.77:8898I'm glad that there's an English version that makes it less terrible. . D0 ^$ A8 T" v, z- j' `公仔箱論壇To be honest, I don't think it was ruined at all.We are a very pessimistic people, 7 n0 `; _5 _: F$ O- t9 ~/ V' o
so maybe it was good after all that it was not made popular in its original form." 9 k9 W8 ~& d3 S! d7 r1 V4 q5.39.217.77:8898就係呢個啦.... 公仔箱論壇/ R* h! j0 I7 B4 m' ~; O/ S
仲有套movie係關於首歌,叫做"Ein Lied von Lieve und Tod -- Gloomy Sunday" ' e0 H# w1 v. F7 |; ktvb now,tvbnow,bttvb 1 r$ @9 A6 c; e+ p5.39.217.77:8898: S& n9 ^) {% ^3 I8 G
作曲者不是法國的，而是匈牙利的Rezso Seress，1935年作。 5.39.217.77:88986 |5 b# [& u' a- G
被翻成了無數版本，英文是其中之一 ( }& K0 a2 l% R" v/ e3 Z9 R翻唱者： tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb+ X6 f7 {3 G* Q7 x! q" D% G9 g# F
Billie Holliday, Louis Armstrong, Sammy Davis Jr., Elvis Costello, Stan Kenton, Ray Charles, $ }( \, W7 n& l3 i- u9 m' y6 M
Josephine Baker, Sinead O’Connor, Maurice Chevalier, Tom Jones, Mantovani, Lydia Lunch, Bjork, * L( z9 @9 p/ Q4 mtvb now,tvbnow,bttvbSarah MacLachlan，Christian Death, Gitane Demone.... 2 a* L1 b8 Z' ^
is there any way i can get the file in another source?5.39.217.77:88981 V/ X' @& g1 n0 }* ^" `
the one posted cannot open作者: Kathy_chan 時間: 2007-4-16 02:53 PM
