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my guess is (8+5 = ) total 11 strokes.  (in chinese!)
this is what i think:
; i8 c# d5 t! @tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb8 write in chinese ---> 2 strokestvb now,tvbnow,bttvb# v' t) n! ^+ F, ?, F
5  ''      ''      ''     ---> 5 strokestvb now,tvbnow,bttvb4 ^" S& A/ y8 i+ }% J  H2 W
+  "      "       "     ---> 2 strokes公仔箱論壇5 H0 I0 I" d) k3 B
=   also                ----> 2 strokes  , so total  11.
7 k5 X/ Z$ R9 n6 ?公仔箱論壇let me know if i am wrong....
do you know 8 in traditional chinese, 5 in traditional chinese?
yes
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