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my guess is (8+5 = ) total 11 strokes.  (in chinese!)
this is what i think:tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb$ K. b) q. e- V" F
8 write in chinese ---> 2 strokes/ r7 `% j1 X2 {9 |# Y  M2 J
5  ''      ''      ''     ---> 5 strokes公仔箱論壇4 t) B) h% ?9 \3 [: A* ^6 U& R
+  "      "       "     ---> 2 strokes  c" c2 e; F7 P6 B; c) K
=   also                ----> 2 strokes  , so total  11.5.39.217.776 J) R9 w- ~& q- ?2 P+ y
let me know if i am wrong....
do you know 8 in traditional chinese, 5 in traditional chinese?
yes
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