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my guess is (8+5 = ) total 11 strokes.  (in chinese!)
this is what i think:
! W3 e  S) A+ k2 V5 U! H& g5.39.217.778 write in chinese ---> 2 strokes5.39.217.77- D+ X# m" q' Y$ x( L* N9 d
5  ''      ''      ''     ---> 5 strokes
* c: w" U" H8 f5.39.217.77+  "      "       "     ---> 2 strokes
, G6 s% P  T& t  N=   also                ----> 2 strokes  , so total  11.公仔箱論壇" B; U/ X+ H3 D! T
let me know if i am wrong....
do you know 8 in traditional chinese, 5 in traditional chinese?
yes
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