8 S+ X8 j2 G* T* F4 B! l公仔箱論壇其他關於<黑色星期天>的資料: 2 m" U# n* i# B0 SEnglish translation of the original 2 P0 p4 s0 y K3 u4 o$ _; D yThe original song was written in 1933 by two Hungarians, Rezso Seress (music) 公仔箱論壇( `/ q [9 U0 w5 ]+ A% e5 q `1 \
and Laszlo Javor (lyrics), and consisted of the first two stanza 0 h4 ]0 y( p: b% Q, K. A5.39.217.77only -- the last stanza was added later, also first in Hungarian, 6 E3 ^2 A; Z/ [8 }$ U/ u
as Zoe Orosz from Hungary pointed out to me. 5 ?; B' b) D( Q5.39.217.77Zoe added: TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。# A3 Q4 Z d/ `! s! ~
Actually, the second part of the song in Hungarian is not so reassuring at all. 5.39.217.778 e" c; `. e- u5 \ r$ T( X+ Y
It is if at all possible, much gloomier than the first two stanzas, almost apocalyptic. tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb; f4 [- J: S0 \& Z
It looks like the pessimism of the song was too much for the translators and they made their translation a happier one. 公仔箱論壇) B; d% m; h% M2 p) g
In that case one might argue that the translator has done a bad job $ ]/ K: ]/ c' w5 q$ Eand 'ruined' the song, or in other words: a translator has to maintain the original spirit & ?0 {4 a( E% \" {3 zTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。and intentions of the song. On the other hand, 5.39.217.77% q) M5 Y: F" d: L) B
a translator may also be more than just a translator and based on the original create a new song. + T( o" O3 k! I2 d' b$ n* ZTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。Perhaps the Sam Lewis mentioned in the credits is responsible for this. H: e3 u. I/ C$ h" ~( Y0 G
; i/ F' I$ v8 BZoe Orosz also made a translation into English of the original Hungarian song, adding: 9 ]" i4 @$ Y9 W" L& J) c" H4 TIt looks like Javor wrote the first part and Seress the second. It is very-very gloomy. ' a7 G: i+ e/ D公仔箱論壇It seems to refer to the horrors of a war at the end. TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。! q2 q& E; ]- ]' B; L
I'm glad that there's an English version that makes it less terrible. To be honest, 1 ^9 v& G0 \& c- n. ETVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。I don't think it was ruined at all. We are a very pessimistic people, 5 E, d$ {* U6 w1 t. K2 t
so maybe it was good after all that it was not made popular in its original form. 2 O+ m" x" ~7 R/ X( t3 g _" P0 CTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。 8 ~' O' I- H, p. J2 x) RTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。The war Zoe mentions could be the First World War, as the song originates from the 1930s. 6 S9 M1 y" {/ V
But since the second part of the song is even more gloomy than the first part, tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb+ r# A. o5 C/ w
the second part may have been added after the Second World War.公仔箱論壇- F* C0 M7 H7 Q$ J
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3 n) Z' }. N& l- W" Y5.39.217.77Someone said that:公仔箱論壇) C. t$ d/ @0 C! Z6 [6 G
I like this song very much! It is a little jazzy, and Sarah's singing and the music create the right mood for the song. : d6 L' f; P1 e+ G( i9 t5 cOne thing is very strange, though. The mood changes between the second and the third stanza, 公仔箱論壇% }/ _' [' t6 g* y1 e" P9 Z
because she wakes up and realises that the gloomy first two stanzas were nothing but a dream and the third stanza is then more chearful. 1 C" x$ |$ l y0 X k7 N/ z公仔箱論壇This change of mood is strangely rather abrupt: tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb J o0 `6 p; x+ J9 f. g
the pause is less than a second -- Sarah has barely enough time to catch her breath. TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。) p; u9 e3 ?3 e H% }: A/ {% j; X
I would have expected the change in mood between stanzas two and three to be build up a little more gradually, 5.39.217.77" l+ D1 V! N0 c: l
in five to ten seconds or so. After all, waking up and realising that it was a dream takes time. 公仔箱論壇$ v+ {1 f2 a8 N3 ]
Hazan suggested that the last stanza could still be part of the dream: the singer has lost her lover, TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。: \6 b! d$ z- [4 g: I' l M4 A
continues her mourning in her dream, and as a reaction to the pain wishes it was all but a dream: - h3 D: u9 t" q" y+ G公仔箱論壇"I find you asleep in the deep of my heart", not next to her in bed. 公仔箱論壇 d( M$ y4 O( L/ l6 C
I do not think this is what is meant here. The change of mood, the use of the words , h' k# T5 S( }/ t; a, C1 o# dTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。"I was only dreaming / I wake" and also the lines "I hope / 8 @6 P% \6 B0 u! S! ythat my dream never haunted you" make me think that the singer has woken up 公仔箱論壇' t. p5 a; E' }' s/ ?0 D
(though the whole text is written in the past tense). ! }8 S& T: d; ?8 `8 u; M4 |" g, B ' o) v( z5 |; f9 d* {, x/ n( s4 K. |# V4 y: l
多關於黑色星期天,大概都話呢首歌係１９３０ｓ死左好多人，後來禁左．後來出左英文版先無咁恐怖（之前應該仲恐怖） 6 @; u) K0 {0 ?$ V5.39.217.77"It seems to refer to the horrors of a war at the end. 9 H0 d( A( C% `) }
I'm glad that there's an English version that makes it less terrible. # e0 P2 T% @, W& I7 Btvb now,tvbnow,bttvbTo be honest, I don't think it was ruined at all.We are a very pessimistic people, 5.39.217.77. \' J/ O1 { i/ Y! T
so maybe it was good after all that it was not made popular in its original form." R/ j2 O( ~2 A, R0 y" F就係呢個啦.... 公仔箱論壇3 c9 a/ ^, T, S; i. c" W
仲有套movie係關於首歌,叫做"Ein Lied von Lieve und Tod -- Gloomy Sunday"tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb/ ~; T% w0 c- M/ A' m
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作曲者不是法國的，而是匈牙利的Rezso Seress，1935年作。 * b) F4 q3 [+ M/ P( MTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。被翻成了無數版本，英文是其中之一 - K! S& ?" y5 G. X1 H# O* ~5.39.217.77翻唱者： ' l8 |$ P; x* o5.39.217.77Billie Holliday, Louis Armstrong, Sammy Davis Jr., Elvis Costello, Stan Kenton, Ray Charles, $ M6 P. L/ ~. Z z# {TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。Josephine Baker, Sinead O’Connor, Maurice Chevalier, Tom Jones, Mantovani, Lydia Lunch, Bjork, tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb+ x9 M. j* p7 _! I0 |
Sarah MacLachlan，Christian Death, Gitane Demone.... 5.39.217.77: Q! y# E5 _0 b; u" L
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