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English translation of the original 1 H4 i$ F) L& g/ gThe original song was written in 1933 by two Hungarians, Rezso Seress (music) ! V8 f. g- R; T: T5 u' W \+ U8 j
and Laszlo Javor (lyrics), and consisted of the first two stanza 6 Y. y; T: l0 E( W: {" p2 e公仔箱論壇only -- the last stanza was added later, also first in Hungarian, * G6 T) ~/ r; o/ }
as Zoe Orosz from Hungary pointed out to me. + k7 X8 ?) P6 q, r, T3 A R公仔箱論壇Zoe added: 3 A6 h6 u' p. G& x% b1 `$ x+ Y2 B3 ~TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。Actually, the second part of the song in Hungarian is not so reassuring at all. TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。3 ]& ~3 T0 j( A/ ?
It is if at all possible, much gloomier than the first two stanzas, almost apocalyptic. & O* h9 v" e2 y) ^
It looks like the pessimism of the song was too much for the translators and they made their translation a happier one. % S6 Y1 W7 A: UIn that case one might argue that the translator has done a bad job ! z* h/ }. u1 L6 TTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。and 'ruined' the song, or in other words: a translator has to maintain the original spirit 9 L4 [' j/ ~! c4 h3 p, Utvb now,tvbnow,bttvband intentions of the song. On the other hand, 6 {' A, k: z5 [, K- J: Btvb now,tvbnow,bttvba translator may also be more than just a translator and based on the original create a new song. / ~" ?3 Q( D n2 G1 o$ U
Perhaps the Sam Lewis mentioned in the credits is responsible for this. tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb5 Y- Q+ M% e1 T3 |7 G5 L. w" `# n
* K0 V$ P8 t5 H; t" @tvb now,tvbnow,bttvbZoe Orosz also made a translation into English of the original Hungarian song, adding: * k9 q' w; l. Y k+ YIt looks like Javor wrote the first part and Seress the second. It is very-very gloomy. / l6 m" f4 t8 M `7 oIt seems to refer to the horrors of a war at the end. ( ^% v D; z" V. h0 Z6 _
I'm glad that there's an English version that makes it less terrible. To be honest, y. d1 F2 w- V+ U0 n X8 v) mtvb now,tvbnow,bttvbI don't think it was ruined at all. We are a very pessimistic people, ( @9 }- U/ Z, n; Iso maybe it was good after all that it was not made popular in its original form. \* K2 ^- b0 ^' k* ~5 c
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The war Zoe mentions could be the First World War, as the song originates from the 1930s. , a4 |8 I" M! ~9 j2 R! ^3 p; IBut since the second part of the song is even more gloomy than the first part, : _: R6 @/ a# {' L% A) c5 gthe second part may have been added after the Second World War./ ]9 i# e+ z: O
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Someone said that:7 \/ Z, A( v& ^/ U- f3 ^! I
I like this song very much! It is a little jazzy, and Sarah's singing and the music create the right mood for the song. 6 i# ]: ]: y5 O1 p1 f: O5.39.217.77One thing is very strange, though. The mood changes between the second and the third stanza, 公仔箱論壇, o* o( I* o5 E( Y5 I Z. P
because she wakes up and realises that the gloomy first two stanzas were nothing but a dream and the third stanza is then more chearful. + n; R; [0 E% ~4 x- [: X& fTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。This change of mood is strangely rather abrupt: tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb% `7 }% Q# `! J* W; w+ N
the pause is less than a second -- Sarah has barely enough time to catch her breath. 0 O, d9 h1 J+ kI would have expected the change in mood between stanzas two and three to be build up a little more gradually, * [" j K. s1 ?4 c) ~
in five to ten seconds or so. After all, waking up and realising that it was a dream takes time. 9 M {& W `( _+ d, `: \! l公仔箱論壇Hazan suggested that the last stanza could still be part of the dream: the singer has lost her lover, 5.39.217.77 Q7 \) f* k+ S9 l0 l+ C+ O2 ?4 ]
continues her mourning in her dream, and as a reaction to the pain wishes it was all but a dream: 0 r( {/ n$ f& O/ W3 G8 p: [& z. utvb now,tvbnow,bttvb"I find you asleep in the deep of my heart", not next to her in bed. tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb) o# F/ G0 s7 q; a+ x4 w
I do not think this is what is meant here. The change of mood, the use of the words 5.39.217.779 W) g9 O8 U3 B; m( K9 h
"I was only dreaming / I wake" and also the lines "I hope / " J" e: q4 |) y$ e1 ]. t( ctvb now,tvbnow,bttvbthat my dream never haunted you" make me think that the singer has woken up * f. D( p3 k/ h% i& S$ z(though the whole text is written in the past tense). 1 m, x- Z2 x; c8 n( g. E2 g$ n1 x! Z5.39.217.77 ; q8 M9 _6 @( S* u, P2 e; Y0 CTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。公仔箱論壇" j, m' H( r. R ^0 Q+ X3 W
多關於黑色星期天,大概都話呢首歌係1930s死左好多人,後來禁左.後來出左英文版先無咁恐怖(之前應該仲恐怖) tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb8 K- T( O4 a ~( @
"It seems to refer to the horrors of a war at the end. tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb; a1 R% `6 P* i0 f" F" \* a3 v# R
I'm glad that there's an English version that makes it less terrible. 5.39.217.77% q" x0 X/ ?: b# i' M
To be honest, I don't think it was ruined at all.We are a very pessimistic people, 5.39.217.77 b! L+ P) l9 t( P) y7 @" d
so maybe it was good after all that it was not made popular in its original form." ' O _) u8 \& D' A; L公仔箱論壇就係呢個啦.... 8 @) I. [; N8 \7 l* P仲有套movie係關於首歌,叫做"Ein Lied von Lieve und Tod -- Gloomy Sunday"tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb* M8 h5 F+ {/ D& N8 O
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作曲者不是法國的,而是匈牙利的Rezso Seress,1935年作。 公仔箱論壇4 \$ _* H7 b: U& G/ |
被翻成了無數版本,英文是其中之一 # H M0 Q/ L# a; w& @6 m% E0 M
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Billie Holliday, Louis Armstrong, Sammy Davis Jr., Elvis Costello, Stan Kenton, Ray Charles, 5.39.217.77" g- i! r1 L4 ~$ p& x
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