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其他關於<黑色星期天>的資料: 5.39.217.77( K+ n. o- v( U6 w
English translation of the original 公仔箱論壇! S: O$ j- s9 B. T* ^* X
The original song was written in 1933 by two Hungarians, Rezso Seress (music) tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb* H: c- c+ d, I
and Laszlo Javor (lyrics), and consisted of the first two stanza 5.39.217.775 w# ~+ T) v9 F" C& D9 @/ h! |1 U4 O; I
only -- the last stanza was added later, also first in Hungarian, " ^) T. Z, u5 Y& s
as Zoe Orosz from Hungary pointed out to me. 公仔箱論壇* j0 F. {3 z% N% s4 T# i
Zoe added: / `; S- R7 H! _$ D$ v' O) ltvb now,tvbnow,bttvbActually, the second part of the song in Hungarian is not so reassuring at all. ( i0 \: n' c) d; L. t% HIt is if at all possible, much gloomier than the first two stanzas, almost apocalyptic. 9 L! ^* |. A5 T7 RIt looks like the pessimism of the song was too much for the translators and they made their translation a happier one. 6 S& B# [! `- I; q- h3 K+ G+ s- `
In that case one might argue that the translator has done a bad job 9 X, o* \% R7 K
and 'ruined' the song, or in other words: a translator has to maintain the original spirit $ Q: z% `. ~8 land intentions of the song. On the other hand, 9 m$ U8 K* o" W. a
a translator may also be more than just a translator and based on the original create a new song. . [- {$ d1 E( sPerhaps the Sam Lewis mentioned in the credits is responsible for this. TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。3 E2 ~/ R9 u: d' u. R8 p
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Zoe Orosz also made a translation into English of the original Hungarian song, adding: - J& U9 ^; `$ X2 J7 e4 Ytvb now,tvbnow,bttvbIt looks like Javor wrote the first part and Seress the second. It is very-very gloomy. tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb0 e& n8 m/ _5 \- P, l% y; U
It seems to refer to the horrors of a war at the end. 2 o: s) E+ _0 j1 ETVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。I'm glad that there's an English version that makes it less terrible. To be honest, tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb3 A" R* E0 a+ a
I don't think it was ruined at all. We are a very pessimistic people, 4 V: l! O$ I9 y6 t! Fso maybe it was good after all that it was not made popular in its original form. ; |" _+ O; w( ptvb now,tvbnow,bttvb * Z; Z& K) C r- T; g2 F5.39.217.77The war Zoe mentions could be the First World War, as the song originates from the 1930s. & S* F) y, M7 J% a! A- {TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。But since the second part of the song is even more gloomy than the first part, 5.39.217.77/ ~# ~+ j& |, _+ w9 H
the second part may have been added after the Second World War. 8 U+ o5 J! x8 F wtvb now,tvbnow,bttvb ( ?3 E' h b: l$ |9 ?TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。 9 I: f# Q5 P. W2 a! y) R公仔箱論壇 0 h; H2 k2 O# ^9 W, J2 W4 _5.39.217.77Someone said that:. G+ y- G5 Y( b6 |
I like this song very much! It is a little jazzy, and Sarah's singing and the music create the right mood for the song. tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb9 l" |3 }8 J4 R( j1 p$ H0 [
One thing is very strange, though. The mood changes between the second and the third stanza, & I4 v, o& I( Z% B7 ?
because she wakes up and realises that the gloomy first two stanzas were nothing but a dream and the third stanza is then more chearful. 5.39.217.778 G. l4 W1 _$ H- o1 w
This change of mood is strangely rather abrupt: % V9 i6 x! ?' O
the pause is less than a second -- Sarah has barely enough time to catch her breath. ) }! n, B" U1 q2 H8 k* I公仔箱論壇I would have expected the change in mood between stanzas two and three to be build up a little more gradually, 公仔箱論壇5 q0 g4 B3 y2 D* T& W
in five to ten seconds or so. After all, waking up and realising that it was a dream takes time. 6 s& k% l5 q' }8 P! n
Hazan suggested that the last stanza could still be part of the dream: the singer has lost her lover, + u4 ~- N% w; ]& N4 P2 l: T7 S2 \tvb now,tvbnow,bttvbcontinues her mourning in her dream, and as a reaction to the pain wishes it was all but a dream: , e5 ^5 r" P% R0 w6 V6 W5.39.217.77"I find you asleep in the deep of my heart", not next to her in bed. 5.39.217.77/ W/ E" g R, k# W9 n9 f3 y/ _
I do not think this is what is meant here. The change of mood, the use of the words [, R; P' Q! T. l' ["I was only dreaming / I wake" and also the lines "I hope / + G: W, \/ D8 c9 g, Y3 t6 q0 xthat my dream never haunted you" make me think that the singer has woken up 5 \- Z! s7 I' J7 ](though the whole text is written in the past tense). 6 i8 q+ F/ @2 `; s9 B : r4 S# ^: G+ R* s ? `* d公仔箱論壇 4 h' H2 Q- ] P/ u& M2 h9 c多關於黑色星期天,大概都話呢首歌係１９３０ｓ死左好多人，後來禁左．後來出左英文版先無咁恐怖（之前應該仲恐怖） + i$ L9 v0 k4 ?- C7 }+ s7 H"It seems to refer to the horrors of a war at the end. % Q' I: _5 r* T& N9 A9 {& S
I'm glad that there's an English version that makes it less terrible. / b1 o+ }. ^- s) g公仔箱論壇To be honest, I don't think it was ruined at all.We are a very pessimistic people, 3 i1 D* ~' u$ ]& M& {
so maybe it was good after all that it was not made popular in its original form." 公仔箱論壇2 A: f2 _/ i1 D% t m5 D
就係呢個啦.... tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb# F [ S; ]- G3 B# b2 C
仲有套movie係關於首歌,叫做"Ein Lied von Lieve und Tod -- Gloomy Sunday" ) o2 Z( `5 t) m8 \5 Stvb now,tvbnow,bttvbTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。, V3 B# K0 ^! t! U6 K
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作曲者不是法國的，而是匈牙利的Rezso Seress，1935年作。 . `8 l. P: b5 U9 g$ b' g公仔箱論壇被翻成了無數版本，英文是其中之一 tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb( A1 u0 f! m5 I
翻唱者： * C2 P) w" B; t) N' b, B8 K8 e) vtvb now,tvbnow,bttvbBillie Holliday, Louis Armstrong, Sammy Davis Jr., Elvis Costello, Stan Kenton, Ray Charles, ' I6 c- A' h; K0 @, c; m$ M% {
Josephine Baker, Sinead O’Connor, Maurice Chevalier, Tom Jones, Mantovani, Lydia Lunch, Bjork, 1 v1 X) l1 f* a, p I0 F9 ~0 x3 O
Sarah MacLachlan，Christian Death, Gitane Demone.... 6 H P3 D) K; B9 J( {& A2 BTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。 + I3 ~* D A, }" a5 b(轉貼)作者: 泰利26 時間: 2006-10-14 03:28 PM
聽過,都幾悽怨~作者: 點解我甘黑 時間: 2006-10-15 12:27 AM
聽咗,不過悟知系米受楼主嗰D話影响,聽完後心情有D沉重.聽嗰时真系幾悽凉下,不過聽落又好似幾好聽甘咯作者: sky_tw 時間: 2006-10-25 03:57 AM
恐怖！作者: James911 時間: 2007-1-18 02:22 AM 標題: did any of you die??
is there any way i can get the file in another source? - {0 l/ z3 b3 Y+ W' [TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。the one posted cannot open作者: Kathy_chan 時間: 2007-4-16 02:53 PM
