/ D0 v% A8 B+ O* e4 w& E% q2 X1 h4 S8 w公仔箱論壇 $ C( S c6 {9 A) C3 W2 iTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。6 M8 e4 j: ~6 h. R/ U% J9 [
其他關於<黑色星期天>的資料: ; y) a0 p' s% rEnglish translation of the original : x! x3 b* i! j% @# d5.39.217.77The original song was written in 1933 by two Hungarians, Rezso Seress (music) 公仔箱論壇4 Y8 w9 _2 Q6 u& i! I; q! z. e% i
and Laszlo Javor (lyrics), and consisted of the first two stanza 公仔箱論壇- q2 h4 P7 n' ]" k" b
only -- the last stanza was added later, also first in Hungarian, " X& R- j( L+ z6 Otvb now,tvbnow,bttvbas Zoe Orosz from Hungary pointed out to me. 5 H6 B8 t) c8 m2 H: i: l1 B: ]1 V$ Q2 E
Zoe added: , z' S+ P5 U9 @: I2 a! A公仔箱論壇Actually, the second part of the song in Hungarian is not so reassuring at all. 3 N1 n5 c; c, l" i2 y/ C1 Y公仔箱論壇It is if at all possible, much gloomier than the first two stanzas, almost apocalyptic. _: b% o) m. v. T a% Y公仔箱論壇It looks like the pessimism of the song was too much for the translators and they made their translation a happier one. 公仔箱論壇 T( T E5 O- e- a2 G* U
In that case one might argue that the translator has done a bad job 4 i4 c3 j8 f3 P" A( W- A) W
and 'ruined' the song, or in other words: a translator has to maintain the original spirit tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb* V0 b/ l( ~6 i3 m( V4 {/ p
and intentions of the song. On the other hand, 7 @9 `- C- h1 `& \' Ta translator may also be more than just a translator and based on the original create a new song. 5.39.217.77; C* ^ U: S- [, b
Perhaps the Sam Lewis mentioned in the credits is responsible for this. 6 t( R6 T, x5 T& r% u5 h5.39.217.77 + R4 |/ L! _) _4 p, U5 p0 stvb now,tvbnow,bttvbZoe Orosz also made a translation into English of the original Hungarian song, adding: 5.39.217.772 a7 D9 _1 {, c) T
It looks like Javor wrote the first part and Seress the second. It is very-very gloomy. TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。- Z! y6 M/ h0 d7 \
It seems to refer to the horrors of a war at the end. " _9 g j) Z7 g1 m公仔箱論壇I'm glad that there's an English version that makes it less terrible. To be honest, " P* i) U- t6 |3 f5.39.217.77I don't think it was ruined at all. We are a very pessimistic people, 5.39.217.77, V0 W2 e/ B- a
so maybe it was good after all that it was not made popular in its original form. * ^% g; X+ V5 ~( ] m4 f# U9 h" Y5.39.217.77 7 L4 G. ^2 _) i9 a e0 P8 Stvb now,tvbnow,bttvbThe war Zoe mentions could be the First World War, as the song originates from the 1930s. 3 k/ T- M9 O; O* `5 u( k) rTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。But since the second part of the song is even more gloomy than the first part, B e( _9 r+ c+ ^8 f& w8 Mthe second part may have been added after the Second World War. + {- T u5 o5 S, h) L. [3 {1 }" b$ }& F# d I
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- V' y( |9 ], ] M9 {) A公仔箱論壇Someone said that: 7 Y8 S5 ?; V2 {I like this song very much! It is a little jazzy, and Sarah's singing and the music create the right mood for the song. . I a0 [- l9 ?6 i$ ^; L3 B' ^1 M公仔箱論壇One thing is very strange, though. The mood changes between the second and the third stanza, ) u3 J6 g: h2 Y/ y# `* c& ^2 \* f
because she wakes up and realises that the gloomy first two stanzas were nothing but a dream and the third stanza is then more chearful. ; u/ Y2 m7 v% t8 s
This change of mood is strangely rather abrupt: & \' R g/ q9 k9 \% xthe pause is less than a second -- Sarah has barely enough time to catch her breath. . T7 W6 K1 S3 L( d" Y9 e/ h
I would have expected the change in mood between stanzas two and three to be build up a little more gradually, TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。: F# }. Q/ I+ ^2 p& I6 ?, R+ s4 s
in five to ten seconds or so. After all, waking up and realising that it was a dream takes time. 5 S6 m; ?( V: C5.39.217.77Hazan suggested that the last stanza could still be part of the dream: the singer has lost her lover, , v9 s" S' L- J5 b. s% Z j1 Pcontinues her mourning in her dream, and as a reaction to the pain wishes it was all but a dream: $ r: B" N8 a8 M, yTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。"I find you asleep in the deep of my heart", not next to her in bed. 8 \" n, b- z! s* z( @I do not think this is what is meant here. The change of mood, the use of the words $ v9 `3 |- v$ T# |! L公仔箱論壇"I was only dreaming / I wake" and also the lines "I hope / 8 P# M8 B+ X) c3 p" ~tvb now,tvbnow,bttvbthat my dream never haunted you" make me think that the singer has woken up 4 n) c/ K4 G5 N. s+ v' c(though the whole text is written in the past tense). ; b2 J$ v4 w! M% h4 j6 A- E公仔箱論壇' _1 a4 L6 E+ S! m2 ?# ?
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多關於黑色星期天,大概都話呢首歌係１９３０ｓ死左好多人，後來禁左．後來出左英文版先無咁恐怖（之前應該仲恐怖） ' I m# \6 M \! h
"It seems to refer to the horrors of a war at the end. $ ?" y* ]" C: X: \& g
I'm glad that there's an English version that makes it less terrible. 5.39.217.77/ c3 E4 y/ o+ V- L
To be honest, I don't think it was ruined at all.We are a very pessimistic people, 公仔箱論壇' P8 N. F, j* [
so maybe it was good after all that it was not made popular in its original form." 5 a, P: x( {) e8 H$ r7 k7 E2 z2 s公仔箱論壇就係呢個啦.... TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。) S, S+ S2 r6 r- X
仲有套movie係關於首歌,叫做"Ein Lied von Lieve und Tod -- Gloomy Sunday" . x8 D$ y+ W& N7 y1 N8 i5 e5.39.217.77公仔箱論壇) I9 X# j( v8 f2 \( C) n1 |
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作曲者不是法國的，而是匈牙利的Rezso Seress，1935年作。 6 l7 L# Y. e/ q: w* g, P2 \TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。被翻成了無數版本，英文是其中之一 ' A" {8 u: X5 l3 n公仔箱論壇翻唱者： " _$ N0 O7 u' `$ ~ _Billie Holliday, Louis Armstrong, Sammy Davis Jr., Elvis Costello, Stan Kenton, Ray Charles, " l$ Z) C* L0 F% J* }& E+ \0 ~tvb now,tvbnow,bttvbJosephine Baker, Sinead O’Connor, Maurice Chevalier, Tom Jones, Mantovani, Lydia Lunch, Bjork, tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb& g! ~0 W. r( t- H
Sarah MacLachlan，Christian Death, Gitane Demone.... " m2 A! y6 a- l I/ L& ?" K公仔箱論壇 6 G; g, b9 @3 V: E(轉貼)作者: 泰利26 時間: 2006-10-14 03:28 PM
聽過,都幾悽怨~作者: 點解我甘黑 時間: 2006-10-15 12:27 AM
聽咗,不過悟知系米受楼主嗰D話影响,聽完後心情有D沉重.聽嗰时真系幾悽凉下,不過聽落又好似幾好聽甘咯作者: sky_tw 時間: 2006-10-25 03:57 AM
恐怖！作者: James911 時間: 2007-1-18 02:22 AM 標題: did any of you die??
is there any way i can get the file in another source?tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb7 S7 O8 I, p3 h2 \7 S; d
the one posted cannot open作者: Kathy_chan 時間: 2007-4-16 02:53 PM
