9 _) N* b' L* K8 H公仔箱論壇 " C9 k2 N" E# A8 E6 P7 v ' O" {3 q* ]* q) f3 Y5 Q其他關於<黑色星期天>的資料: 公仔箱論壇" @# e6 M i7 c6 t( C! b( z; D4 R
English translation of the original 5.39.217.77! g5 Z# j4 Y; E4 g3 R% p
The original song was written in 1933 by two Hungarians, Rezso Seress (music) 5.39.217.77: z1 a; s9 x! J8 f. K
and Laszlo Javor (lyrics), and consisted of the first two stanza 6 M; R: ^2 q+ V) X1 \only -- the last stanza was added later, also first in Hungarian, ) |% O, v, t* B* P, S# `3 N
as Zoe Orosz from Hungary pointed out to me. 5.39.217.775 z, W: U. P' `0 D
Zoe added: 6 s, P" L; X8 \8 mActually, the second part of the song in Hungarian is not so reassuring at all. . y. i, {) x9 e c& D5 X6 t8 Q
It is if at all possible, much gloomier than the first two stanzas, almost apocalyptic. ! V; V, p6 a" R1 r- A' Jtvb now,tvbnow,bttvbIt looks like the pessimism of the song was too much for the translators and they made their translation a happier one. 5.39.217.77- f" C ^' S; C% L" F9 N
In that case one might argue that the translator has done a bad job & @$ p, ?% U+ a0 A9 {5.39.217.77and 'ruined' the song, or in other words: a translator has to maintain the original spirit 3 @& j/ L6 E; ]5 dand intentions of the song. On the other hand, 9 `- F3 j, k/ d! [ a ^a translator may also be more than just a translator and based on the original create a new song. - k& T% m' }# ~
Perhaps the Sam Lewis mentioned in the credits is responsible for this. - Z; z; { U0 C3 B
{, n4 R+ q5 x S2 b, ]: x5.39.217.77Zoe Orosz also made a translation into English of the original Hungarian song, adding: 5.39.217.770 z# \: \! f4 T7 j( s- P& i1 |
It looks like Javor wrote the first part and Seress the second. It is very-very gloomy. $ y. m) J& g+ S( [; n+ m& Atvb now,tvbnow,bttvbIt seems to refer to the horrors of a war at the end. ; {0 g1 Z4 o0 l: lI'm glad that there's an English version that makes it less terrible. To be honest, 0 s% T0 q8 b5 ATVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。I don't think it was ruined at all. We are a very pessimistic people, : A+ B, [0 K2 R3 T公仔箱論壇so maybe it was good after all that it was not made popular in its original form. 5.39.217.778 F2 D4 b/ f. A
/ ] o- N! y4 `! N' h; FTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。The war Zoe mentions could be the First World War, as the song originates from the 1930s. ; e/ c% _( f- w; P/ p( P5.39.217.77But since the second part of the song is even more gloomy than the first part, 4 d3 @4 d; |$ |" wtvb now,tvbnow,bttvbthe second part may have been added after the Second World War. ; r$ \. J! t' B( x, Ctvb now,tvbnow,bttvb / b2 ?! \" q/ P8 h5 L4 E' F; ~5.39.217.77tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb/ W$ K; @% p. T" d- p; m* n! d% b* Z
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Someone said that: + m% R! ~ ?" ^3 i* G公仔箱論壇I like this song very much! It is a little jazzy, and Sarah's singing and the music create the right mood for the song. / F9 g( d- d# P8 s% aOne thing is very strange, though. The mood changes between the second and the third stanza, % e, v( r' D2 I: r( C" G: \tvb now,tvbnow,bttvbbecause she wakes up and realises that the gloomy first two stanzas were nothing but a dream and the third stanza is then more chearful. TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。/ [/ h& H& l; b/ |. ~, Z& m
This change of mood is strangely rather abrupt: : b6 i2 o3 E. ^1 C! h5.39.217.77the pause is less than a second -- Sarah has barely enough time to catch her breath. ) Q; Q2 ?+ d. V& r- Q
I would have expected the change in mood between stanzas two and three to be build up a little more gradually, * |1 e+ }8 w- N' D5 M/ }+ Qtvb now,tvbnow,bttvbin five to ten seconds or so. After all, waking up and realising that it was a dream takes time. tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb. ]' A9 ?* ~/ v& ]% L
Hazan suggested that the last stanza could still be part of the dream: the singer has lost her lover, 8 U+ _: |. f# i! Stvb now,tvbnow,bttvbcontinues her mourning in her dream, and as a reaction to the pain wishes it was all but a dream: 1 u. b3 x7 A% _; T4 U1 g' R5 c
"I find you asleep in the deep of my heart", not next to her in bed. + C9 W$ K" M4 u2 i2 E1 vtvb now,tvbnow,bttvbI do not think this is what is meant here. The change of mood, the use of the words ' D! c! K8 X, [4 X% T5 j
"I was only dreaming / I wake" and also the lines "I hope / 公仔箱論壇/ P, Q. Q2 X+ }9 R( N
that my dream never haunted you" make me think that the singer has woken up ! t4 b' j0 O: v# ~! M5.39.217.77(though the whole text is written in the past tense). . a3 p2 Q+ w$ s7 N% H, [公仔箱論壇6 m" e, s S- t# H8 ?
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多關於黑色星期天,大概都話呢首歌係１９３０ｓ死左好多人，後來禁左．後來出左英文版先無咁恐怖（之前應該仲恐怖） 公仔箱論壇- }8 ?$ [. ?# }0 r. z& E
"It seems to refer to the horrors of a war at the end. 2 r7 p! S* U+ {5 rTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。I'm glad that there's an English version that makes it less terrible. 9 s( H: k$ Y& X7 itvb now,tvbnow,bttvbTo be honest, I don't think it was ruined at all.We are a very pessimistic people, 5.39.217.77$ Y4 q; \( n) f6 \0 U" P5 |6 l5 d, g- q
so maybe it was good after all that it was not made popular in its original form." - L1 g4 c1 ^/ D公仔箱論壇就係呢個啦.... , c9 ~# K9 {6 q% ^3 q4 q. aTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。仲有套movie係關於首歌,叫做"Ein Lied von Lieve und Tod -- Gloomy Sunday" $ \/ P: s7 { I' P0 m5.39.217.77 ?; ?8 y8 S$ \7 [5 q* z5.39.217.77 6 Z. A8 z g- o* o作曲者不是法國的，而是匈牙利的Rezso Seress，1935年作。 1 P% z1 B, ]" L, [8 g% p被翻成了無數版本，英文是其中之一 , J$ n: b( A- f+ |4 n& V" u2 v5.39.217.77翻唱者： tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb, P! `5 C! |" c2 y1 v
Billie Holliday, Louis Armstrong, Sammy Davis Jr., Elvis Costello, Stan Kenton, Ray Charles, ) G3 a' s5 Z8 B( K
Josephine Baker, Sinead O’Connor, Maurice Chevalier, Tom Jones, Mantovani, Lydia Lunch, Bjork, # b6 e" H" e1 q# O公仔箱論壇Sarah MacLachlan，Christian Death, Gitane Demone.... 3 [1 Y* q1 V* V2 _" ftvb now,tvbnow,bttvb . ]$ q& O t' }7 M* j# V6 A- h9 S. |6 YTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。(轉貼)作者: 泰利26 時間: 2006-10-14 03:28 PM
聽過,都幾悽怨~作者: 點解我甘黑 時間: 2006-10-15 12:27 AM
聽咗,不過悟知系米受楼主嗰D話影响,聽完後心情有D沉重.聽嗰时真系幾悽凉下,不過聽落又好似幾好聽甘咯作者: sky_tw 時間: 2006-10-25 03:57 AM
恐怖！作者: James911 時間: 2007-1-18 02:22 AM 標題: did any of you die??
is there any way i can get the file in another source?tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb& V V* C1 U! f* W' |- I
the one posted cannot open作者: Kathy_chan 時間: 2007-4-16 02:53 PM
