& w: W6 ?+ A5 j/ R4 t* u5.39.217.77其他關於<黑色星期天>的資料: tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb% V: l7 n8 l4 ]0 ]: C0 D! u
English translation of the original Z6 F( j9 {3 }0 i& u P9 B" R V0 b- |5.39.217.77The original song was written in 1933 by two Hungarians, Rezso Seress (music) 9 r# P( u4 l1 L
and Laszlo Javor (lyrics), and consisted of the first two stanza % [8 ^( Q5 y3 ]
only -- the last stanza was added later, also first in Hungarian, 5.39.217.776 |. C, r' v9 W& C/ W. F
as Zoe Orosz from Hungary pointed out to me. : v$ @' j% V3 ?' F2 \4 k( A* p5.39.217.77Zoe added: 公仔箱論壇9 V& R4 V& E; F
Actually, the second part of the song in Hungarian is not so reassuring at all. 2 `: K9 P% y& Y3 `It is if at all possible, much gloomier than the first two stanzas, almost apocalyptic. TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。' o+ q( D6 m: i0 n
It looks like the pessimism of the song was too much for the translators and they made their translation a happier one. 5.39.217.77. _% N3 k8 S) x' Z. \
In that case one might argue that the translator has done a bad job + c" \/ b6 b. K, x7 kTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。and 'ruined' the song, or in other words: a translator has to maintain the original spirit # R6 ]+ D3 n8 F
and intentions of the song. On the other hand, ) [) Z+ D8 ^. k; l) ~tvb now,tvbnow,bttvba translator may also be more than just a translator and based on the original create a new song. 0 P& E6 A$ V _6 _+ {( u2 U7 u
Perhaps the Sam Lewis mentioned in the credits is responsible for this. TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。# Y0 P- D) g5 f
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Zoe Orosz also made a translation into English of the original Hungarian song, adding: 5.39.217.772 q) C( w, f$ C! A- j7 V# a
It looks like Javor wrote the first part and Seress the second. It is very-very gloomy. $ I8 b1 r8 t' O5 N8 q; H4 UIt seems to refer to the horrors of a war at the end. TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。& T+ `; Z0 U0 b! ^
I'm glad that there's an English version that makes it less terrible. To be honest, 5.39.217.775 Q1 X8 }: N* j7 Z
I don't think it was ruined at all. We are a very pessimistic people, tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb5 @2 Z: G: [7 E4 P% o8 w; F: B( R) n
so maybe it was good after all that it was not made popular in its original form. 0 I$ ^& `2 `4 t' j5 O4 Z/ f
( O4 {% z2 O' @" y* ] rtvb now,tvbnow,bttvbThe war Zoe mentions could be the First World War, as the song originates from the 1930s. 0 d6 _+ e& ^, i4 Htvb now,tvbnow,bttvbBut since the second part of the song is even more gloomy than the first part, tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb6 {7 Z1 d+ \0 X1 T2 Y5 a8 {, j8 K. P
the second part may have been added after the Second World War. ' u5 S4 c; @) ]! Z. n& A0 Q5.39.217.77tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb5 z' u. ? ]2 {8 ]
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Someone said that:公仔箱論壇0 A: C6 G+ ~. p3 b7 `9 r
I like this song very much! It is a little jazzy, and Sarah's singing and the music create the right mood for the song. , {. c s L& r+ |One thing is very strange, though. The mood changes between the second and the third stanza, ( f5 `) L3 M8 s- g1 h2 L1 w5.39.217.77because she wakes up and realises that the gloomy first two stanzas were nothing but a dream and the third stanza is then more chearful. V3 v, _, N6 g$ S* ^ s; NTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。This change of mood is strangely rather abrupt: 5.39.217.77, \5 d! z- E4 q6 b j5 a: `
the pause is less than a second -- Sarah has barely enough time to catch her breath. 6 f0 P$ I$ L9 A5 v8 _I would have expected the change in mood between stanzas two and three to be build up a little more gradually, & [# q, L( G" E' L公仔箱論壇in five to ten seconds or so. After all, waking up and realising that it was a dream takes time. # w% X; C F' M) Ytvb now,tvbnow,bttvbHazan suggested that the last stanza could still be part of the dream: the singer has lost her lover, tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb$ @1 @* Y4 n6 N' f2 |
continues her mourning in her dream, and as a reaction to the pain wishes it was all but a dream: 1 I) V. o2 a; \
"I find you asleep in the deep of my heart", not next to her in bed. 9 d4 `7 A( ~/ A) P6 M. D3 q. O+ Ytvb now,tvbnow,bttvbI do not think this is what is meant here. The change of mood, the use of the words \2 U- Q" U; P$ F; h2 C
"I was only dreaming / I wake" and also the lines "I hope / tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb# a$ Y# ~' S/ l: R9 z7 ~
that my dream never haunted you" make me think that the singer has woken up 公仔箱論壇: T& d" F6 V$ H/ k' Q* J
(though the whole text is written in the past tense). - J/ r2 J- o2 x! _ g/ b * x1 M/ c- V: x公仔箱論壇TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。9 e+ O' o6 U- g
多關於黑色星期天,大概都話呢首歌係１９３０ｓ死左好多人，後來禁左．後來出左英文版先無咁恐怖（之前應該仲恐怖） tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb# e9 q6 d7 h0 q1 k/ V' R
"It seems to refer to the horrors of a war at the end. 1 G' j/ [/ ~( X' \/ L4 EI'm glad that there's an English version that makes it less terrible. , R5 [" ?0 p3 s' y9 _% f
To be honest, I don't think it was ruined at all.We are a very pessimistic people, tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb& f) Y- Z: e4 v8 O% A' j6 I
so maybe it was good after all that it was not made popular in its original form." p$ P0 K) ?! I; u: N5.39.217.77就係呢個啦.... & T+ [; w6 | y: ~9 ~9 utvb now,tvbnow,bttvb仲有套movie係關於首歌,叫做"Ein Lied von Lieve und Tod -- Gloomy Sunday" 9 P. n2 ^. R, T ! x/ {/ q# j, u( C4 q! ~5.39.217.778 s X" ]$ O @ h8 x g. J1 Y
作曲者不是法國的，而是匈牙利的Rezso Seress，1935年作。 ! E7 O( M# F, O+ c5.39.217.77被翻成了無數版本，英文是其中之一 7 I! r# l7 g% t" g. y公仔箱論壇翻唱者： 5 c- y0 a3 |+ r& F. aBillie Holliday, Louis Armstrong, Sammy Davis Jr., Elvis Costello, Stan Kenton, Ray Charles, TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。: }; Y; @, m5 W }0 d/ c
Josephine Baker, Sinead O’Connor, Maurice Chevalier, Tom Jones, Mantovani, Lydia Lunch, Bjork, & S3 _/ J$ I6 { d- O& x5.39.217.77Sarah MacLachlan，Christian Death, Gitane Demone.... TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。' \8 N3 ^9 g- V! r1 D
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is there any way i can get the file in another source?公仔箱論壇* j# w& ?0 s3 h( ~0 G. K6 O4 E
the one posted cannot open作者: Kathy_chan 時間: 2007-4-16 02:53 PM
